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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am Post subject: Welcome! |
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adam kean New contributor


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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:23 pm Post subject: the monkey in art |
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I note that one of the most famous images in the work of the estimable graffiti artist known as BANKSY (who had a sell out show just before Xmas), depicts a monkey wearing a sandwich board bearing the words: YOU MAY LAUGH, BUT ONE DAY WE"LL RULE THE WORLD. |
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Wynn Wheldon Occasional contributor


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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:44 am Post subject: if monkeys ruled the world |
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the estimable kean has demonstrated that the pathetic fallacy is alive and kicking (well, going "ooh, ooh, ooh" and scratching itself under the armpits at any rate). I cannot remember whether ruskin thought the PF a good thing or a bad thing, or whether he was merely observing a trait of victorian sentimentality. I daresay the great man would have found banksy's art less than sublime, and perhaps no less sentimental than some of that victorian mush; we are, after all, awash with sentiment to a degree verging on the dzhugashvili-schicklegruberian... |
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adam kean New contributor


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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:09 pm Post subject: monkeys with pathetic fallacies |
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Well, yes - you say pathetic fallacy, others might say anthropomorphism (the pigeons outside my window might say it, for example).
Banksy, on the other hand, might say prophecy. Ruskin, alas, can say nothing. He is no longer with us.
If memory serves, I remember a number of Victorain paintings where characters have monkeys on their backs. There was quite a vogue for it, I think. Or am I thinking of an illustration from a Wilkie Collins book? Or Melville? |
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Wynn Wheldon Occasional contributor


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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:50 pm Post subject: the monkey dances |
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I think you may be thinking of the cover of the basement tapes. the monkey features regularly in mr dylan's works, viz. "Well, it's always been my nature to take chances / My right hand drawing back while my left hand advances / Where the current is strong and the monkey dances / To the tune of a concertina". an interesting mix of metaphors I'm sure all readers will agree. as for the monkey in art - or 'der afe in kunst' as wegermanophiles like to put it - let us look into a&a and see what we can find. go to sets to find MONKEY!!! |
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adam kean New contributor


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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject: monkeys in my inbox |
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Thankyou Mr. Whaldoon - you were kind enough to do my job for me vis a vis monkey sets. I particularly like the monkey strangling the young savage. (Just the sort metaphorical depiction of evil I was talking about.) Though I worry that sharing this sort of thing over the net can be dangerous in this day and age. You refer to Mr Dylan. May I in turn refer you to Mr Townsend and his troubles in this area. |
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Philosopher David Novitz has argued that disagreement about the definition of art are rarely the heart of the problem. Rather, "the passionate concerns and interests that humans vest in their social life" are "so much a part of all classificatory disputes about art"
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Today, pickled sheep and soiled beds threaten to make barbarians of us all" they are not advancing a definition or theory about art, but questioning the value of Hirst's and Emin's work
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In 1998, Arthur Danto, suggested a thought experiment showing that "the status of an artifact as work of art results from the ideas a culture applies to it, rather than its inherent physical or perceptible qualities.
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The assumption of new values or the rebellion against accepted notions of what is aesthetically superior need not occur concurrently with a complete abandonment of the pursuit of what is aesthetically appealing. Indeed, the reverse is often true, that the revision of what is popularly conceived of as being aesthetically appealing allows for a re-invigoration of aesthetic sensibility, and a new appreciation for the standards of art itself.
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Francisco Goya's painting depicting the Spanish shootings of 3rd of May 1808 is a graphic depiction of a firing squad executing several pleading civilians. Yet at the same time, the horrific imagery demonstrates Goya's keen artistic ability in composition and execution and produces fitting social and political outrage. Thus, the debate continues as to what mode of aesthetic satisfaction, if any, is required to define 'art'.
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Making judgments of value requires a basis for criticism. At the simplest level, a way to determine whether the impact of the object on the senses meets the criteria to be considered art is whether it is perceived to be attractive or repulsive.
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